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Metatarsalgia, an unusual thing happened to make it better

Discussion in 'Ask your questions here' started by lloydsfeet, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member


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    I have a condition that the Dr. said was possibly metatarsalgia, which is a symptom of something else if I understand it correctly. The pain is in the metatarsal pad and at the base and just into some of my toes. Sometimes the base of my toes are tender even when I'm off my feet. I have tried some different shoes, pads, pieces of foam, and nothing seems to make my feet feel much better. I am 59 and on my feet quite a lot wearing New Balance running shoes and similar shoes.

    But a few weeks ago the family decided to go to the beach and collect rocks. I wore some stiff hard hiking shoes that I have worn before. From the trail head it is about 800 feet and a 75 foot drop to the beach. The beach is mostly round rocks the size of potatoes and some coarse sand in areas. We walked, mostly on the rocks as we were finding pretty ones for the garden and loading them up in backpacks. After walking about .3 miles, we turned around and picked up rocks on the way back too. I ended up carrying 75 pounds in my pack and 20 in my hand held bag walking on the potato rocks and back up to the trailhead. It was hard and strenuous but I'm fit enough to power back up to the car without stopping.

    The entire time my feet hurt a bit and I had visions of ibuprofen, ice, and a couch for that evening and the next day. When we arrived back home, my feet felt about the same as they always did, a bit of pain in the same area. But it was the next morning that was the surprise. My feel never felt better. NO pain at all and it was a good day. It lasted a few more days then the pain started to return.

    So was it the shoes or the rocks. I wore my hiking shoes for a few days walking around the shop and house and my feet still hurt just as if I were wearing the running shoes. So could it have been the rocks? When walking on the rocks one has to favor the ball of the foot to lock the ankle to avoid a twist. The rocks are so uneven, my foot was twisted every which way. So was it like a massage?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  2. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Super Moderator

    metatarsalgia is a non-nonsensical diagnosis. It just means pain in the metatarsal area!
    Just like saying you have a "sore knee" - could be 100's of very different things. No dr should be using that term.

    Hard to say what happened with your experience ..

    Sound like you have 'plantar plate dysfunction' <-- look that up.
     
  3. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    Sorry, I used metararsalgia, not the doc. He did explain it correctly. Regarding plantar plate disfunction.. I looked it up and it does not quite match my symptoms. My toes are straight and do not hook. Could it be I have a small plantar plate tear and the major indicators are not with me yet? A year ago, the pain was more in the metatarsal area with a slight burning sensation even when my foot was up with no pressure on it. This has subsided and the pain is now more in the toe and just into the metatarsal pad.

    Let me describe where my current pain is a bit better. If I take my second toe and bend it down, it hurts at the base of the toe. If I put pressure with my finger on the underside of that toe at its base by the metatarsal pad, it hurts on the bottom of the toe and also a bit in the metatarsal pad. This is the same on each foot.
     
  4. anzac

    anzac New Member

    Yes cancer can be grow in any part of the body..especially the neglected one
     
  5. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    Another observation... The pain has moved a bit and now it is mainly in my second toe, (next to big toe). It hurts when the toe is bent down or pressed underneath. There is still some pain in the metatarsal area too. Ideas....???
     
  6. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    And yet another observation. I spent three days at hotels and while there I spent some time on the exercise bike. A decent amount of exertion for about 1/2 hour each time. And my feet feel better.

    So could exercise be doing something with blood flow? Could it be nerve issues in my legs? The exercise doing something to my nerves in my legs? This is really strange and I intend on experimenting and seeing if I can duplicate the results again. I am hesitant to talk this over with the doctor just yet.

    any ideas?
     
  7. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    Well, so for I can modulate my foot pain with aerobic exercise. Just 10 min on the bike and my foot pain is almost gone for a day. So strange. This is not a light load on the bike but moderate. Certainly not extreme. Heart rate up over 100, which is good for me as my resting HR is usually in the low 50's and I'm 59.
     
  8. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    Just an update. It looks like an ACE inhibitor, taken for blood pressure, helps with my metatarsal pain. I was on 5mg and ran out for a few days and noticed my feet hurt more, so when I filled the prescription, I doubled it to 10mg and feet felt better. I repeated this and noticed it was repeatable. Any ideas?

    I have recent had to change to another med and the pain in my feet was similar to taking no ACE inhibitor. ACE inhibitors work by enlarging the small blood vessels.

    "Angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitors(ACE inhibitors) are medications that slow (inhibit) the activity of the enzyme ACE, which decreases the production of angiotensin II. As a result, blood vessels enlarge or dilate, and blood pressure is reduced."

    Any ideas?
     
  9. lloydsfeet

    lloydsfeet New Member

    It looks like I have found, unless it was completely coincidental, what the problem was and what solved it. In reading about my problem, a condition was found called Metatarsophalangeal Synovitis, (pain in the 2nd toe joint). According to the web sites, the cause is from a tightening of the calf and tendon which either pulls too much on the 2nd toe, and apparently the other parts in the metatarsal area and causes the pain. The solution is to stretch the calf. The sites say to stretch three times a day and to not expect results for weeks. They were correct. It took three weeks before I noticed improvement and it was slow.

    Here are the links.
    https://angryorthopod.com/2016/03/calf-stretching/
    https://onestretch.com/mtp-synovitis/
     
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