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Night-time foot pain in children

Discussion in 'Ask your questions here' started by Unregistered, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. Unregistered

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    Thank god for all the info i just read, me too...my son is 4 and has been suffering this for 2 yrs on occasion, growing pains is my assumption too. Sometimes he is inconsoleable and it is really hard to deal with.he never says they are cold though. He has had a few night terrors that coincide with the foot pain, ....interesting.
     
  2. shannonr

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    My 3 1/2 year old son has been experiencing foot pain at night for the last 4 months or so. It does not happen every night, maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks. He is in obvious pain and complains that his feet are cold. I ususally give him Motrin and rub his feet in order for him to fall back to sleep. After reading these posts I think I will have him checked out.
    Thanks for all the info.
     
  3. Unregistered

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    My daughter is 5 1/2 yrs old and started complaining about foot pain at night also. I am a nurse, and I was doing some internet research, and I saw on the Mayo website that they believe this type of pain could be RLS (restless leg syndrome). I'm wondering how common this is in children. According to Mayo, this is very common and could be the underlying cause of ADHD in children who are inattentive and wake up sleepy in the morning. They also said that RLS could be mistaken by GP's for growing pains, and if this doesn't happen all the time, it would be ok, but if it becomes a regular thing, it needs to be investigated. I will post the link, if anyone could give any insight, would be appreciated.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050104113419.htm
     
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  4. Unregistered

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    Wow...I am surprised but relieved to see that others are in the same situation as I am. I have a 5 1/2 year old son and he has suffered from foot pain since he was about 3. I had took him to a podiatrist then and he did some little tests and said he appeared to have high arches. Since my son did not communicate well at the time, it made sense since I too sometimes had arch pain. He advised us to get sneaker molds (cork inserts) for his shoes and that would help. It did indeed help some, but 2 1/2 years later and he still wakes up crying in pain and I know it's for real. It is especially bad when he runs around a lot or goes all day without shoes. I though that maybe he wanted Motrin since the flavor was yummy to him, but when he is screaming in pain, there is a big difference between that and a little whining here to there. I have never heard him complain about it being cold and they always feel warm to the touch, but I will have to ask him. I usually rub them for about 15 or 20 mins until the meds kick in and he falls back to sleep. I hate to medicate him though all the time for this. It happens at least once a week maybe twice sometimes. I think I am defintely going to see a pediatric orthopedic since that would probably be more thorough then a Podiatrist. Please, for those who I have read are going to the DR's, post your outcome so the rest of us can see. It really helps knowing there is others dealing with this too.
     
  5. Unregistered

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    hi i have a 8 year old son who for the past year or so has been waking with pain in his feet the pain is on the top of his foot and it can be both feet or just one foot but he wakes crying and some times screaming in pain he some times says that they are cold but they dont feel that cold it helps the pain if you rub them or put a hot water bottle on them but as soon as you stop rubbing it really hurts a gain and the same when the hot water bottle has gone cold what cold it be
     
  6. ciruegas

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    My 2 y/o has been waking up in the middle of the night crying in pain and touching his feet. He really cannot show me where exactly it hurts but only tells me " feet hurt" "ouch". I give him motrin and after a while tells me "no hurt" and falls asleep. He just started 2 weeks ago pending appt with pediatrician. What could it be?
     
  7. Unregistered

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    Same here, 4 yo suffering occasionally for two years, wakes at night...massage and childs tylenol seem to do the trick. Couple of things that I read "this time around" that interest me are dehydration causing cramps, and feet "wakinging up" after falling asleep. I personally can't stand it when my feet "wake up"...the tingling sensation is the worst and I know if I am not hydrated I get muscle cramps. My son has flat feet and I know he is in for a life of leg discomfort as a result, and that shoes with proper support will be important as he is very active and will likely be involved in sports.

    Since I share custody and have my son 1/2 the week, I don't know how much water he is drinking when he is not with me. I will have him drink a lot of water to rule out that as a cause, but the feet falling asleep, is that a circulation problem? Has anyone here ever tried compression socks to aid with feet falling asleep?

    Thanks~
     
  8. Unregistered

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    My son is 12 and has had these pains for over a year...can't pinpoint the pain...We give advil...hot baths...bowls filled with hot water..this helps..hasn't had it over the summer...now back again today...Weather? It is cold and snowed yesterday...I thought growing pains as is in the right age group. Has physical in December will ask MD then...always hurts near the ankle joint (foot joint)
     
  9. Brioli

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    Hi, I'm new here, and just wanted to read a little about the new research regarding "growing pains". I have skimmed over many of the posts abit not all of them, and have seen a lot of talk about Kohler's and leg stress from profound physical activity.

    I have to disagree on both. I experienced "growing pains" as a child. I can vividly remember the pain in my "bones" in my lower legs and feet. The only thing that relieved this pain (other then Tylenol) was knocking on the "bone" of the tibia.

    Both of my children experienced them too. My son, who is now 11, had them until he was about 8, and my daughter still gets them (she is 6). It's usually about once or twice a month in the middle of the night.

    I can assure you that I have never experienced this "sort" of pain since I was a child. My family and I went to Walt Disney World for a week...needless to say we didn't plan to take break (to rest) while we were there. We walked all day/every day at the theme parks and played really hard. By the time the third day rolled around our feet and legs hurt so bad we had to take Motrin just get out of bed. To get out of bed in the morning and walk to the bathroom caused excruciating pain in my feet and legs (my daughter had a stroller and my son suffered with me). It was so painful I could barely walk until the Motrin kicked in (If we hadn't already payed for everything in advance and had our whole tripped pre-planned I would have taken a few days break in the middle of our week, but everything was already set and payed for and I had no idea how tired it would make us).

    I am thin and always have been 5'7 and 115 pounds (both my children are too). I am very active and always have been...I push my body physically, and don't even exercise on a regular basis (like hiking once a year, or just up and playing Tennis for a couple of hours after an inactive period of a couple of months). NEVER have I experienced that sort of pain again in my LIFE!. I have had all sorts of injuries over the years (sports related), and they never felt like "growing pains". Someone in another post mentioned if there were any doubters why don't we have them in our hands or arms?....I say because our weight is on our legs, and our bones have to push against the force of our weight to grow. There is no weight (on a regular basis) on our arms or hands.

    Just my 2 cents...

    I think it IS related to growing....That is why it stops when we slow down or quit growing.:)
     
  10. Brioli

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    I wanted to add I have watched over the years for a pattern of increased "physical activity" causing the pains in my children, but they get them after laying around the house all day too?? There is no pattern to this.... My daughter also didn't complain of them during the night of the one day she walked all day with us at Disney.....
     
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  11. FootDoc

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    The term "growing pains" has been in both the lay and medical lexicon almost forever, but it has long been established by most researchers and doctors that it is a total misnomer, as it has never been shown to have anything to do with growing. It is, though, as hard to convince its advocates of that as it is to convince the mercury in vaccines/autism cultist, that that has no basis in medical fact. That is not to say that the pains are not really felt, and that some my be associated with specific and treatable illnesses. But there is also scientific indication that many of the children who suffer from these pains may do so because they have especially low pain thresholds. There has never been found a definitive cause or treatment for such pains not associated with actual disease processes. This thread can go on forever, but as one should be able to accept by now, nothing will be gained from it beyond the knowledge that a couple of diagnosable conditions, such as Kohler's disease of the navicular and osteoid osteomata actually are known to cause night pain in the feet of children.

    http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/growing.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10048249

    http://www.livescience.com/mysteries/070227_growing_pains.html

    http://www.ohiohealth.com/bodymayo.cfm?id=6&action=detail&ref=3223
     
  12. Unregistered

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    I do not think my 3 yr old daughter, that exhibits the same or similar conditions to the many other children referred to on this link, has Osteoid Osteoma or Kohler's. I know that being aware of the many different situations that have been posted makes me feel self assured that I am not alone.Thank you for your experiences, as they say 'misery loves company!'

    Symptoms:3.5 yr old girl, pain in either both feet or only one during different occurrences, located near the ankle , the arch and the heel, pain reoccurs during the night, has been symptomatic for nearly 2 years.
    Current Treatment:Age appropriate dose of acetaminophen, Bean bag heating pillow, foot massage
     
  13. Unregistered

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    Im 16 years old, and ive had these "foot pains" since i was about 4 or 5. Its the top of my foot, just above my arch. It is INCREDIBLE pain and it usually keeps me up at night. All I've been able to do is put a hot water bottle on them and take 800 mg of tylenol and wait for the pain to subside. I would really love to know what the condition is.
     
  14. Unregistered

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    My chid is turning four next week and she has similar pains; always occurs at night and she awakes screaming grabing and complaining about her feet, they have a burning sensation in them and are very hot at touch, she can scream and cry from 15 min. up to an hour. Me and my husband rub her feet and try everything to comfort her but it does'nt help much at all. Dr.s have looked her over and said everything looks to be fine and they have never heard of this before. She recently started school and had to have blood drawn to start and previously when blood was tested it was normal but when tested in june they said her iron was low, so she has been on vitamins w/ iron. I don't know if this may have any thing to do with this because it still happens. roughly 1 to 2 times a month. Desparate for anwsers if any can recommend anything please e-mail me. God Bless Lacy Moody sunshine111705@yahoo.com
     
  15. Unregistered

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    I have recently experienced the same with our daughter, who is 4, and is experiencing intermittent night pain in her right foot. This has been going on for several months now, maybe once or twice a month she will wake crying that her foot hurts, holding the top of her foot.

    I took her to the pediatrician last week, and a complete lab assessment was done, to rule out any chronic condition, i.e. arthritis or leukemia, as foot pain can be a symptom of either.

    This had me freaked OUT to say the least and today I received word that all of her lab values were completely normal, CBC (checking white and red blood cells and platelets) and the SED rate and Creactive protein, to check for inflammation (arthritis). And it is believed that with my daughters symptoms (night pain, occasionally, no limp, no redness, no fever, no swelling, no day time symptoms) that these are just indeed growing pains.

    I had to share the news, because I know when these "foot pains" began with her, we were wanting answers and no one really had them and this was the only board I found with sooo many people and their kiddos with the same symptoms as mine. So I hope my reply will help some of you, and put your mind at ease. That most likely, your childs pains, are growing pains. If it makes you feel better, have a blood workup done, and a simple xray. Then you will rest SO much easier!!

    God bless!!
     
  16. Lisa Marie

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    I'm curious if it is a form of raynaud's.

    I get the same thing, and I have since I was a child and now my son goes through it. He wakes up crying (since he was a little baby) for hours just crying and crying and kicking his feet at me and rubbing them like crazy. He's 3, almost 4 now, and he can tell me what is going on a little bit more now.

    The way mine gets is it feels like the bone is full of dry ice. It's a nasty feeling. I get the area warm to help control it. The friction of moving hands fast on the area helps. My parents used to buy me leg warmers. It didn't really help because it was so deep. But it seems like it usually starts by coldness. That's why I think it's Raynaud's because raynaud's can be like an attack and just last a certain amount of time.

    I'm thinking my son gets the same thing I get in my legs, in his feet. It's so hard to watch him suffer and cry for hours. :( I would suggest making sure they have socks on, and blankets on their legs when they fall asleep.

    I have never been able to find a diagnosis on what it is. It could be one of those unexplained things.
     
  17. Unregistered

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    Just as a quicky - as I found this site while trawling the net.

    Several people have mentioned children saying the pain is like "cold feet" and a couple of folks have wondered what they meant / why this would be so very painful - instead of feeling just a bit nippy.

    For the last few days I (44 y/o male) have had exactly this sensation though only at the end of my foot (mainly toes) - and if instead of saying "cold feet" you say "feels like my toes have been standing on deep-frozen ice for several minutes" you may see that it is much more a "cold cramp-type pain" sensation than simply a "cold one".

    A quick trip the freezer and a handful of ice cubes, bare foot and a few minutes will demonstrate :)

    I don't think (for me) it is circulation as they do not actually feel cold to the touch - though resting them on a very warm surface DOES bring rapid relief.

    A bit disconcerting - hopefully only a temporary thing.

    Mark
     
  18. FootDoc

    FootDoc New Member

    Are you unaware that this thread is in regard to young children who, because of their age generally cannot express their complaint in precise and analytical fashion.
     
  19. Unregistered

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    THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED GROWING PAINS I AM UPSET THE FOOT DOC DISAGREES BUT THE CHILDRENS MEMORIAL HOSPITAL OF CHICAGO DOES SAY THERE IS SUCH A THING AS PAIN FROM GROWING I am really disappointed that This so called foot doctor would say there is not. Motrin works, this pain should only happened at night or after a nap and never affect the childs walking if so talk to a doctor immediately. We spoke to several top doctors in chicago this was all of their advice... our son just started the feet issue and yes its 10 degrees out and his feet were cold when he went to bed. We (parents believe he was having cramps in his feet ( like swimming cramps ) water can help and holding them, not sure if this is the same a growing pains usually felt behind the knee and calf area. Strangely enough he woke up screaming like night terrors and said his legs hurt. My mother had five children and several of us had growing pains. So please believe they are possible and please still talk to your pediatrician.
     
  20. Unregistered

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    I just made a doctor's appointment because my 3 year old has been complaining of foot pain and am so glad to have found this forum. Last night my son woke up screaming about his foot pain and wanted me to rub it for him. We got no sleep and my husband and I have been worried about this condition. It is so strange that this pain is only at night. Otherwise, he is active, healthy and happy.
     
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